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Hello and welcome to AboutUs. If this helps, here's a page about linking other pages (internally and externally) in the wiki (you can't use the "a" tag here). If you'd like some more help, check out the help page. Nathan (talk) / 03:21, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Welcome back!

Feel free to continue exploring the wonderful world of wiki here at where everyone may collaborate to build the commons and community through their edits and participation. Be sure to let us/me know if you have any questions along the way (you can leave a message on my talk page via the talk link by my name, join the AboutUs WebIRC here, or check the "currently online" section on the homepage for someone knowledgeable and send them a message on their talk page). I wonder if you might want to add a little information about yourself on your personal page? (Check out PersonalPages for guidance or click my name below as an example.) Please don't hesitate to let me know if you'd like some assistance in accomplishing your goals on AboutUs and if you want some help or new ideas I've found the help page to be a nice resource. Welcome to the AboutUs community - it's great to have you!

Have a most wonderful day!
KristinaWeis | **talk**

Do you mind if I WikiLink your signature on the review so it links to your PersonalPage and so people know what user contributed it w/o having to check the history tab? Check out my edit and feel free to revert it if you don't approve. Nice work following CommunityReviewsFormatting and protecting that e-mail. Also, a cool feature that you probably already know about is the "watchlist" so you can be notified when pages you're interested in get edited - The link to this is in the upper right past your username. Have a good one!

Wooh, let's get started on answering those questions. I think the tildes thing should work, but I fear six is too many. Let me show you here:
  • Three tildes = Kristina
  • Four tildes = Kristina 23:21, 14 May 2007 (PDT)
  • Five tildes = 23:21, 14 May 2007 (PDT)
  • Six tildes = 23:21, 14 May 2007 (PDT)~
See? Four is generally the best option, and six is one too many so it has the extra tilda at the end.
In regards to protecting e-mails, the way that works is to place <email>b490a5811190aa9895f60265a3f7b0eb</email> around the e-mail which for my e-mail will turn out like this: This is really hard to show cause it formats it automatically and weirdly, but you can see ProtectEmail for clearer details.
Related domains are automatically generated by the AboutUsBot and can either be useful or useless, and their deletion or adding of others is totally up to you and other users so change whatever you want there. The same goes for categories as well, keeping in mind that red links are empty or "future" wiki pages so those tend to be more or less useless (related domains can turn up as red links if the capitalization is off, so click them to make sure they work and you can edit the caps so they show blue). The general rule on not being deemed as ExcessiveLinking or Spam is avoiding external links in most cases (WikiLinks are great) and keeping the related domains section to a reasonable amount (so not a ton more than currently exist). Let me know if you have any other questions and if you ever want to jump into the IRC and talk to some of us live there's always a slew of us weekdays 9-5 pacific time (the link is in my first message and also on the right side on the homepage). Have a good one!
Kristina 23:21, 14 May 2007 (PDT)

Angel Oregon

Great work here! I love the ability to use wiki in this way here at AboutUs :) Kristina 17:59, 8 December 2007 (PST)

Re: Category list, Bot, Centralized Support

See ContactUs... and the best places to ask a question of everyone would be ConcernsPage or the IRC if that is appropriate. We do have a support e-mail, (or help@ or info@), but we try to encourage questions on the wiki so that any community member who knows the topic best has the opportunity to answer, not just the one staff member who gets the e-mail first.

There are thousands upon thousands of categories here at AboutUs with more being added as people add new categories to DomainPages. I don't know of a list of all categories, but it certainly would be overwhelmingly long. What were you hoping to do with a list? I don't believe I have ever thought to click the Categories link at the bottom of the page as you did, but I see what you mean and I've forwarded that question on to some of the dev guys to look at. It would make sense to make this link go to the AddCategory page perhaps. And it appears that the eventually worked, but there have been some sporadic errors like this with the AboutUsBot. If you notice any more that don't create you can drop these in the ConcernsPage.

Kristina 12:19, 10 December 2007 (PST)

List of Categories

See Category:Category.

Fixed! --Vartan 12:22, 10 December 2007 (PST)


Hi Joseph, didn't see you just made that subdomain - I changed the capitalization, didn't mean to step on your toes. Please revert if you want. Best, MarkDilley

This works! You can also contact me - would love to show you a few more tools. :-) Here is the change I was referring to. Best, MarkDilley


Hello Joseph, you are correct, categories are difficult here. Within Wikipedia they have grown organically for the past 7 years. Inside AboutUs, we have actually taken the meta tags that people add to their websites and turned them into categories - creating one the largest Folksomony on the net that I know of :-) Additionally on any category page, there is a link in the UsefulLinks section for RelatedChanges, to see the activity of pages within the category. Did this help? ~~ MarkDilley

Joe, Subcategories are wonderfully useful (speaking a little bit in the future :-) - you and I can start the documentation on it! Basically it is just adding relevant categories to the category to create the Subcategory. Make sense? Best, MarkDilley
I think you did the right thing. Maybe we need to clarify that since the database is so large it sometimes takes a few minutest to populate. Also RelatedCategories is possible the place to make the change? Maybe just cleaning up those? I already see Category:Intellectual Property in the Category:Patents page. Make sense? ~~ MarkDilley
it ended up being the other direction. ~~ and working on the talk thing, did that work for you?

Your Idea

Hi Joe, your idea is good and ... complicated and wiki is simple. So here is what this looks like in edit mode ( [[MarkDilley]] <small><span class="plainlinks">[ talk]</span></small>), but looks good for someone just clicking it. I will also work with a template to maybe make it less daunting. I appreciate your time on this! Best MarkDilley talk

alright, testing this here: MarkDilley | talk Comment_green.gif

Attorney vs. Lawyer


In retrospect this was a mistake on my part - I think both tags are relevant and should be used.

Thanks for the catch!


2 things

Hi Joe!

  1. Rendering time is being looked at, maps and purging being looked at. (missed that you said no reply necessary!)
    1. on pages that have maps, instead of keeping map uptodate on view, we have a Refresh this map to refresh with new information.
  2. Categories job queue was stopped for some database work, should be working now. Sorry that we didn't know that and spent a little time banging heads on walls. Best, MarkDilley | talk Comment_green.gif

Portland Business Journal

Hi Joe,

Sorry it took a few days to get back to you, I was off over the holidays. I went ahead and added a thumbnail for Portland Business Journal (the company we get out thumbnails through doesn't create them for subdomains, so we have to do them by hand).

I did move the page to as this is (technically) the proper subdomain name, but more specifically, having the page be the URL makes it so that the three links work right (the article title, "go directly to site" and thumbnail). I hope this all makes sense. TakKendrick | talk Comment_green.gif 11:42, 27 December 2007 (PST)

Your comments on PortlandTech

First off, thanks very much for the feedback. You commented on the development of the calendar, but did you mean the reocurring calendar or the upcoming events calendar? Steven | talk 09:41, 2 January 2008 (PST)

Great, thanks for your swift response. I definitely agree! Steven | talk 10:13, 2 January 2008 (PST)

WikiPage table styles

Joe, I'm not exactly sure what you're looking for in question you left for TedErnst. There aren't currently any "styles" one can apply to a table to change its appearance, but we can work through a few ideas to create one. Do you have a specific table in mind? --Vinh Nguyen 13:22, 11 January 2008 (PST)

re:Page Improvement Examples feedback

Sorry it took awhile to get back to you. Thanks for the feedback on the Powell's example, I've changed the wording so as to avoid confusion (I didn't mean to refer to the map feature in DomainPages). Thanks again! Steven | talk 10:27, 14 January 2008 (PST)

Auto Tables, with varying support?

I like the idea, Joe. So what you're really asking for here is not so much a table mechanism, but a way to easily create a 2, 3 or 4 column list with certain degrees of personal control. Let me chat with some of the developers about this idea. I'm not sure how much work it would take to implement, but I doubt it will be too difficult. I'll let you know what I hear later today. --Vinh Nguyen 10:50, 14 January 2008 (PST)

Vinh - Thanks. Your description of what I'm asking for is both better and simpler than my suggestion in SuggestionBox#WikiPages_table_style. -- Joe Cohen | Leave me a message 11:16, 14 January 2008 (PST)
Joe - I've gone ahead and adjusted some of the code to allow for certain "types" of Related Domain tables. These types, unfortunately, have to be predefined in the stylesheets to be of any value. There's some trickery going on that auto-sorts the text entered. I haven't figured out how to manipulate or turn that off just yet, but will keep looking for a solution. Enjoy for now! --Vinh Nguyen 18:22, 15 January 2008 (PST)
Vinh - Neat! Is there an extension that will do that without turning everything into a link? What types are defined? -- Joe Cohen | Leave me a message 18:32, 15 January 2008 (PST)
Joe - I started working on one to do just that, but got derailed with other work. I'll try to take a look at it this week and if it works well enough, maybe put it out there. Basically all it will do is create a three column table of lists. I'm not sure that this is the best approach, however, for doing this sort thing. --Vinh Nguyen 11:16, 21 January 2008 (PST)
Vinh - Do you have something in mind as a better approach? With everything else that's on your plate, you probably shouldn't spend time on this if there's a better way. -- Joe Cohen | Leave me a message 11:20, 21 January 2008 (PST)
Joe - Well, the better way may simply be a pure CSS solution. There's no reason this needs to be done via tables and a template tag. The downside to this approach is the necessity for a little HTML knowledge. There is something that is already set in place that may satisfy your needs for now. Example here.


Hi Joe, glad that you are interested in this project! It has been on our priority list for a while and with your attention should make the top of the list! I made an edit that I think you will find helpful. Let me know. Best, MarkDilley

Joe, I'm back in Chicago now and I think finally finished being sick. Would love to have a call (phone or skype) with you about this. When is good for you? TedErnst (talk) 13:06, 22 January 2008 (PST)
Today, Wednesday, would be great. How's 2pm Portland time? It's best for me to initiate a phone call, if that's okay with you. Feel free to send a number by email () or talk page. Thanks! Also, check out the changes to Help? TedErnst (talk) 07:07, 23 January 2008 (PST)


While it's possible that a page has more than 30 relevant categories, it seems unlikely. And if everyone uses marginally relevant categories, we all lose, as the system collapses under it's own weight. At least that's my take on it. You might want to ask this question on either of those two pages. Pagerank is probably better since that's more of a work in progress at this point. TedErnst (talk) 21:26, 24 January 2008 (PST)

PortlandTech Skin

Wondering what you thought of the new skin? - Ray | talk

Super, I added the setskin tag to PortlandTech talk to change it's skin also :-)


Hi Joe, it would be great to know which glossary items you didn't understand and/or thought were better described in other places. ~~ MarkDilley Mark: I'll put it on my task list. -- Joe Cohen | Leave me a message 16:34, 27 January 2008 (PST)

Here are the ones I'm having problems with (through D)

  • AddLogo Is this a template, or does some template output "AddLogo"?
  • AddReview ditto
  • AddThumbnail This glossary entry is empty.
  • Adult Domain Page Boilerplate I don't get the purpose of this. Also says (right after title): "add this to your subdomain page and fill it in manually". Is this for domains, subdomains, both? And if this is for Adult pages, is there an "adult" tag that people should add?
  • Domain Page Boilerplate See comment above. If the boilerplate is intended for SUBdomains, then do you need this page, given the existence of Create Subdomain? And shouldn't the boilerplate be the same as that cuased by the create subdomain button? (Lots of pages link to Domain Page Boilerplate. I don't understand why.)



Of course there will be a WikiWednesday next week. I just posted a reminder to people in the Google group:

Wednesday, February 6, 2008
5:30pm - 8:30pm
The AboutUs offices
107 SE Washington St, Suite 520

Please come if you can. You're part of this now (cue creepy music/cackling). :) -- TakKendrick | talk Comment_green.gif 11:16, 30 January 2008 (PST)


Hi Joe, Ted, Kasey and I sat down and reviewed your work with an eye towards learning, so you will a bunch of edits, please revert anything if we lost something you wanted to stay. I wanted to let you about Specific RecentChanges, because I think it answers your question about knowing what is happening in the space. It does not let you know what happens in specific spaces, but I think that if we were lucky enough to grow PortlandTech we could self-organize specific categories, for example Category:PortlandTech Web2.0. Let me know if this makes sense. Plus in the PortlandTech header there is a link for recent changes that really points to the Specific RecentChanges for the Category:PortlandTech. Best, MarkDilley

Mark, Ted, & Kasey:
  1. The edits all look great.
  2. I realize that some of my suggestions may be misguided and/or that there are practical priorities may stand in their way. It's easy for me to make a bunch of suggestions, and much, much harder to implement them, even if they make sense. I know you're all pretty busy, so feel free to ignore the suggestions. If I really need help, I'll let you know.
  3. In PortlandTech/Groups/User Groups there are 2 groups I think of as professional groups: and Despite the normal definition of a user group as a club[1], I think it would make more sense to include professional groups in PortlandTech/Groups/User Groups. I'll have a whack at the definition.
  4. Thanks for the info about Specific RecentChanges. That function is very useful, but is -- in some sense -- much more than some users might want. For instance, someone want to know whenever there's a new Web 2.0 company in the Portland area. So that person just wants to know whenever a page that had not been tagged with Category:PortlandTech AND Category:Web2.0 becomes tagged with that combination. (And you'd want to be alerted to the change, as opposed to having to go look for it.) An automated solution appears to be impractical now (and maybe always impractical).
I've found a work-around that's practical for me. has (1) a free service that lets people monitor any web page for changes. (They also have a service that allows companies to notify people about changes. I don't thing that's free.) They look at the HTML daily, and compare it to a saved version. They notify you if there is a change. The beta version will highlght the change. -- Joe Cohen | Leave me a message 21:24, 3 February 2008 (PST)


I've reverted the abuse. We will tighten up the security around these pages to discourage repeats. I'd be happy to discuss our options at your convenience. -- Ward

Maps and Tufte

Sweet, these guys are very creative, thanks! - Ray | talk

Re: Internet map

Hi Joe, yes I was staring at your fascinating map. At first I was drawn in because I'm fascinated by maps in general, but as I looked at it more, I found the ideas in it all the more interesting. I wished we had gotten together to discuss it. -- Llywrch 13:36, 7 February 2008 (PST)


Hi Joe, can you send / upload screenshot of i.e. appearance? That would be helpful. Best, MarkDilley

About the non-tech article


You are absolutely right about removing VillaRentals from PortlandTech, as it is a non-tech wikipage.
Sometimes some articles which are not tech based also land in the tech categorizes, which we have to judge whether they are Portland based or tech related but there occurred a slight mistake while creating the page .....:) and we shall be careful next time for other Tech portals...Thank You for your suggestion.
Regards,Asma Khan

Wow, Joe! Thanks for appreciating the efforts of content team! Things which you have suggested are really beneficial for all the Tech Portals, we always try to check the address of the tech page than work on it, although if any page is eliminated from the portal still adds value to AboutUs. We shall be observing the Washington tech pages and Canada based tech pages for the Vancouver Tech Portal.Your suggestions will always be regarded! Asma.

Re: rollback

No problem Joe. The comment was clearly unconstructive. So I had to remove it :-) Let me know if there is anything I can help you with. Best, Asad | *~talk~* 22:07, 14 April 2008 (PDT)

stoel rives link

Hi Joe, just got your talk page message. The badge is working for me, but does try to go to and then finds the address.

Regardless, I've sent an email to our developers asking them to make the fix. I'd imagine that it's a 2-minute task that will go up sometime today.

-- TakKendrick | talk Comment_green.gif 12:10, 21 April 2008 (PDT)

Moving namespaces

This section moved here from HelpIndex#Moving_Namespaces

Ran across a good potential use for Namespaces. I want to see if HelpIndex links to the pages pointed to by Six messaging areas. Some of those pages are linked to by a huge list of stuff. The What links here pages allow me to limit the list to a particular Namespace. Unfortunately, HelpIndex seems to be in the main Namespace. Would it make sense to move it to the Help namespace so we could more easily see if HelpIndex linked to various pages? What would be the side effects of this move? -- Joe Cohen | Leave me a message 20:09, 10 February 2008 (PST)

Yes, I have seen that benefit as well. I think it's fine to move it. Help:HelpIndex or Help:Index? The potentially hardest part of that will be checking backlinks for double-redirects, but maybe since HelpIndex is new, there aren't too many redirects to it yet.
I do suggestion moving this part about the re-naming to HelpIndex before we do it. TedErnst (talk) 05:58, 11 February 2008 (PST)
  1. Re your question where to move it: Help:HelpIndex or Help:Index? The second is simpler. I like simple but don't have a strong preference. Does one of these work better than the other? Note that because of how Find functions, you must type "Help:Index" into the Find box to have Help:Index returned as a search result. So we must keep HelpIndex (for among other reasons) so that users searching for "Help Index" and the like would generate a hit.
  2. "What links here" says there are 50 pages that link to HelpIndex. This is a manageable number for checking backlinks for double-redirects. And even 50 appears to be an exaggeration; it appears that many of these pages link to HelpIndex only because they include the CommunityNews template.

-- Joe Cohen | Leave me a message 07:43, 11 February 2008 (PST)

Joe, I have never been a big fan of namespaces, as Ted knows :-) - I am usually more interested in flattening out the wiki than making it more complicated. What benefit do you see about using the namespace, I see you mentinon What links here - but am still confused. Best, MarkDilley

Mark: What I see isn't a huge benefit; there are workarounds; and I don't know enough about the workings of Namespaces to have an opinion on the tradeoffs. Anyhow, here's what I had in mind as a benefit:
I stumble across (or someone sends me to) a page that includes some kind of help. Is that page already included in HelpIndex? An intuitively easy way to answer this is to look at What links here. But What links here may return a really long list of pages -- in an order that I don't yet understand -- partly because it defaults to listing pages from all Namespaces. If HelpIndex were outside the Main Namespace (e.g., in the Help Namespace), I could display What links here from only the Help Namespace, and tell more quickly if the page was linked to by HelpIndex. That's all I had in mind. -- Joe Cohen | Leave me a message 11:19, 11 February 2008 (PST)

Recent Contributors

I just wanted to point out this new feature that I'm excited about and also to encourage you to upload a portrait this way to join in. I hope all is well and that you're having a great week. Best, Kristina (contact me) 21:53, 7 July 2008 (PDT)