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I'm with BrandonCSSanders (talk).


Values for Spending

  • Local for produce
  • Don't care much if organic or not
  • $$ value within reason
  • Flowers, bread, eggs would be nice
  • Convenience for pickup and gas
  • Connection to community

CSA Portland

  • Sauvie Island Organics
    • 15 miles
    • $875 for 30 wks mid-May to Dec = about $29/wk
    • 1 share = family of four. No splitting.
    • 3411 SE Ankeny (near 33rd and Burnside) Tuesdays, 5-7pm
  • Hood River Organic
    • Further distance but great stuff
    • Weekly or bi-weekly delivery year around from a coalition of farms
    • The Vegetarian Box - $39* Around 10 seasonal produce items, plus a loaf of fresh, vegan bread. It is a good choice for a single person or small family.
    • The Omnivore Box - $49* Vegetarian Box, plus one half dozen farm fresh eggs and the hand-crafted dairy item of the week (made with organic milk). Good for a household of 1 to 3 people with a diverse diet. ; includes eggs, cheese, bread.
    • Portland Area Residents: Home delivery T, W or Sat with fee. Drop point 606 SE Madison at Organics to You
  • Organics to You
    • Bin for 1 $27, for couple $33
    • California and Mexico in winter :(
    • Tues to our door
    • Can adjust to weekly, bi-weekly, monthly. Can skip items or add items.

Grocery Store Options

Values questions for discussion: Will we never buy at Freddies again? If not, why not?

These are our favorite stores in order of preference, balancing "local" business, "local" produce, "local" for us, price, shopping experience, and our other values.

  • Sheridan's local, buys/labels local produce, bulk, good prices, great location = top pick. $1.89 for Sunshine Dairy milk 1/2 gallon. $2.69 for local organic apples.
  • Food Fight local, spendy, but probably best pick for veggie foods
  • Portland Farmer's Market Thursday 5/15/2008 - 9/25/2008 3:30 PM - 7:30 PM SE Salmon and 20th; Saturdays 4/5/2008 - 12/20/2008 8:30 AM - 2 PM PSU
  • People's Coop local, more emphasis on organic, if you become a member-owner ($180 over 6 yrs) free yoga 4x/wk, discounts at other coops; a little far away -- 3029 SE 21st Ave (just north of Powell). $0.99/lb for local organic apples. $4/dz eggs.
  • New Seasons local (8+ Portland stores), buys local (1/3 of products; labeled w/ yellow labels), spendy but rivals Sheridans for a good values fit. Delivers for $9.95 or personal shopper w/ in-store pickup for $4.95. $2.99 (or ??$3.99 for Pacific Village 1/2 gallon). $7.99 for 2lbs Till Cheddar. $3.49/butter.
  • WinCo: Not exactly local (Sixty-four stores in Washington, Idaho, Nevada, California and Oregon), but closer than Freddies. Employee owned. Doesn't sell a ton of local produce. Dirt cheap -- $1.98 for Darigold 1/2 gallon.
  • Zupan's local business (4 stores) purporting to sell local produce, but trendy/spendy 3301 SE Belmont
  • Whole Foods not local, but has nice values; might stock (and mark) some local stuff, close to our location = worth investigating
  • Fred Meyer was started in Portland but now is owned by Kroger headquartered in Cincinnati OH -- no longer "local," but does sell some local produce. $3/butter
  • Trader Joes 300 stores in 25 states, but probably stocks some local produce.

Spending Locally Beyond Produce

Is Local Really Better?

A lot of people I respect seem to think local is superior. I'm not sure why. Here are some of my ideas -- then I'll try to research them.

More Compelling (for me personally)

  • Less fuel cost
  • More $$ stays with middle or lower class rather than padding salaries of wealthy CEOs
  • It just fun and aesthetically pleasing to peddle my bike to the store
  • Supports smaller farms that are more likely to use sustainable practices that support biodiversity
  • Support community groups: Non-profit organizations receive an average 250% more support from smaller business owners than they do from large businesses.
  • Local businesses are more accountable to their communities]
  • Keep our community unique

Less Compelling (for me personally)

  • "Fresher" produce
  • Builds community
  • Less mediated b/c we know "where food comes from"
  • Keeps local land farmland rather than having it develop into strip malls or other structure
  • Food Irradiation??
  • Better customer service

Down Sides

  • Expensive
  • "Holier than thou" or "Greener than thou" (I have been on both the receiving and the giving end of this attitude)



  • Viburnum tinus, "Spring Bouquet" Grows 6-8 ft. White flowers, blue berries. Evergreen, part shade OK. Zone 8. Other Evergreen Viburnum
  • Weigela variegata seems to grow around here, if I'm not mistaken, blooming already in early March. Apparently it is evergreen if the season doesn't get too cold. The variegated leaves would look nice in the shade.
  • Heavenly Bamboo


Ground Covers



  • Windsurfing gear
  • SolSeed Book
  • Green box for Shelley's inbox
  • Toy box for upstairs
  • Toy box for downstairs

Gift Ideas

  • 6 inch ruler for scrapbooking (with inches and centimeters)
  • 12 inch ruler for scrapbooking (with inches and centimeters)
  • Fiskars spring scissors for scrapbooking (my pair broke)
  • 2-4 tomato cages for next year's crop
  • Outdoor doormat for sliding glass door
  • Indoor carpet for upstairs sliding glass door (neutral color, small size)